susanandliamI don’t always interview spouses back to back on my podcast, but when I do, it’s awesome. Especially if it’s Susan and Liam, two of the most interesting and lovely people in the world.

In which Liam discusses the fire that broke out when he was in the shower, his inherent trust of the Irish, and the allure of old baseball games. LISTEN HERE:

In which Susan discusses the ideal town of Edwardsville and its unofficial mayor, how her life is organized around stories, the importance of giving people the benefit of the doubt, and owning awkwardness. LISTEN NOW!